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November 17, 2004
Number of Civilians Killed: 800 (says the Red Cross); Number of non-American Foreign Fighters among the detaines: 10-20 (says Colonel Regner); Eviscerating the Geneva Conventions: Priceless
Here's the a bit from the interview with the Red Cross official via invaluable Dahr Jamail:
Speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of U.S. military reprisal, a high-ranking official with the Red Cross in Baghdad told IPS that ”at least 800 civilians” have been killed in Fallujah so far.His estimate is based on reports from Red Crescent aid workers stationed around the embattled city, from residents within the city and from refugees, he said.
Here's American Leftist crunching the numbers on the "foreign fighters" from information gleaned from a Pentagon briefing:
During an "operational update" on Fallujah today, Colonel Michael Regner accidentally broke with the standard practice of military spokespeople ... He indirectly gave us an estimate on the number of Fallujah's mythical foreign fighters. ...[The number of] our detainees not too long ago this afternoon was right about 1,052. ... But at this time, out of 1,052 most likely about 1,040 -- or 1,030 are Iraqis.So 1,030 and 1,040 are approximately 98% and 99% of 1,052, meaning 1% or 2% were non-Iraqis. If we assume that Fallujan prisoners of war are representative of the Fallujan insurgents as a whole, which the Pentagon numbered at 2,000 to 3,000, that gives us a range of between 20 and 60 foreign fighters present in Fallujah during the run-up to the assault. I guess 20 to 60 guys can qualify as "hordes"?
Anyway, enough with this facts and numbers business. Chief of CIA Porter J. Goss has just told Central Intelligence Agency employees that their job is to "support the administration and its policies in our work. ... As agency employees we do not identify with, support or champion opposition to the administration or its policies." Our job is to silently watch it all happen and not ask too many questions. What else?
Posted by zeynep at November 17, 2004 12:09 AM
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("devil's advocate")
Dude, haven't you heard? We'll accept the toll! Because our Bush tells us so.
"little ones to him belong ..... he is weak, but they are blind"
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I know that there's been a number of mentions, before, about how many soldiers have been lost. I know that there's some belligerent anger, directed, as if, at "the entire military establishment", likewise. I'm not sure if any of it's been effectual ... but I'll say it anyway, that we might not forget how many soldiers have been lost, kaput, fini, obrigado.
("alucinado moderno, when will you end?")
I don't know any exact counts, or any sources for such, myself.
(I've been, in fact, glad to stand clear of anything approaching a popular ruckus. I'm not inclined to try to apologize about it, either.)
("oh, ye modern notions of accountability, confused")
Posted by: Sean Champ at November 22, 2004 06:15 PM